Register your simcard – Government orders

I wonder how much simcards are going to cost given this new administration overhead expenses

I think this is bullshit, you are literally giving your name, address, ID number, childrens names, pets names, colour of the inside of your house, blah blah blah, you get me!! You know how much more crime could spawn from the Government having ALL your details… and IF you DONT do this, you will be classified as a criminal and you WILL go to jail… COME ON!!!!

THE REGISTERING OF ALL CELL NUMBERS USED BY PEOPLE ALONE IS A MISSION….SO GOVERNMENT SHOULD JUST MIND ITS OWN BUSINESS AND LEAVE CELLPHONE COMPANIES(PRIVATE BUSINESS) ALONE AND GO FLY KITE….. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO ANYTHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT TOUCHES

This is a most STUPID Idea!!!!!
What does it help???
Then a cellphones get stolen, they take out your SIM anyway and chuck it away,m so??????????????????????????
It’s not like if the criminal is going to use your SIM for the rest of his life, don’t the police or government already know this???

I suppose it should also be noted, in anticipation of the “oh-but-the-crook-can-swap-the-SIM-card” comments, that they actually can’t.

The same registration procedure applies when you buy a new SIM card, which means you won’t be able to pick them up from Checkers at R5 from the till any more.

There’s only one hole in the system. Informal settlements. In the absence of houses, the government lets residents use their local church as a proof of residence. So a criminal can easily bribe a informal settler to buy a new SIM card with fake details.

Until enough informal settlers get arrested, of course, and word gets around that it’s actually dangerous. But we all know just how terrible the SAPS is at law enforcement nowadays.

And identity theft is really not a problem in this country? If the government could control Home Affairs and the Police correctly then this new measure might have a snowballs chance in Hell of actually working. All this is going to do is capture lots of regular citizens details,so that criminals involved on identity theft can go shopping in one place. And the cost of this glorious waste of time goes to? You guessed it, the SA taxpayer.

I think this is not a good idear at all.
What’s gonna heppen to those who doesn’t know how to protect their sim card with pin or those how forced to give their pin.

Are they going to be prosecuted for something they did do.:-(

when Telkom registers your contact information with their yellowpages database, it is for directory purposes: this means you can get a contact number for someone you know, and this knowledge serves as a security. so when you give residential information for a number, its called tracing, that is also equivalent to privacy intrusion and bureaucratic stripping of freedom as an asset to its citizens.for general crimes, stealing phones and leaving them at a crime scene will cost waste of money going after wrong people. for cellphone crime, IMEI[Serial number]is the only way of tracking and locating cellphones efficiently. so here is the problem. network providers are less concerned about citizen safety and more reluctant not to spend money for backing our security. all they do is block the cell-phone, but they know that unblocking a service blocked phone is as easy as 1,2,3. so they leave large amounts of stolen phone cases unresolved, because we are important for service providers when we buy airtime, bundles etc, when our phones get stolen, we recharge on our aunts, sisters and still make phone calls. so they continue to receive profits either way. so i propose that the government should be focusing on engaging Networks to use their technical security teams to co-operate with our law enforcement to resolve the problem. and also partially finance this proposals. that way the government would have done something quit intelligent and sound. i think we just have to all leave such poor networks and support Telkom and do something and get our voices to be heard. we elected the rulers but we dont even get a referendum to voice ourselves. and that is dictatorship in a democratic state like South Africa

chemically off balanced or did you just have only one beer @Marius

what about our clients who travel to south africa on business -holiday where are they supposed to register
HELP ANYONE

Mehboob
Africa Mobile

OK so I’ve just had my new SIM card registered this afternoon, but I’ve been trying to top it up with airtime ever since. I’ve dialled 100 and typed option 1 to activate my account, but the automated voice tells me that I cannot activate because I have not registered in terms of the Rica act! It must be about 2 hours ago now that I was in the local Pep store having said phone registered. Anyone know how long its supposed to take before one can operate your phone?
Thanks

Thought I’d report back. It took my phone a whole day to be registered, but at least I can use it now.

Perhaps it is all in the name of “Job Creation”. The “elected ones” have promised all kinds of miracles, like jobs. Jobs which involve “attending” work, and relieving the office of money at the end of the month, in the shape of a pay-cheque.

Schemes like this one will probably never find practical use even though they have great potential, and will fall into the same chaos other great ideas have dropped into – because there is no way the current administration can control this.

They can’t even stop unlicensed and unroadworthy vehicles tearing down urban 60Km/Hour roads at over 100Km/hour!

But at least there is “job” creation – yet another intellectual term used to dizzy people into believing we are making giant strides. Well we are – but in reverse.

Now let’s check out VOIP such as SKYPE on ADSL (no SIM card).

I really don’t understand this, they are saying that we should register our sim cards so that crime can be stopped but you know what last friday on the 22nd my BF was robbed, assualted and we went to the police station to report but they couldn’t help us. We went to the Mtn shop or outlet to see if the can trace it.

I had the faith that they will be able to find the phone by tracing but I got dissapionted.Please if anyone can be able to help please help. It is not possible for them to track our phone??

Thanks @ Amod Munga I thought since the sim is register they can track it, and for the IMEI number we don’t know it. The other thing the phone was bought in Hong Kong it is not not available in South Africa yet. Thanks again.

Hi LNG. Guys used to buy over-the-counter SIM cards before, do a crime, then throw the card away. These days they will ATTACK and steel yours, do their crime, then throw it away when it is empty. My phone went, so MTN (after finding the RIGHT agent) gave me a new SIM, and sent out a code to kill the old card so I kept my number. I also went to VODA (where I got the phone) and asked them to black-list the phone. This makes the phone totally dead. The bottom line is; Crime is NOT going to become less; it will only change. I have found out we have to register our SIM cards by January 2012. I will certainly not register mine, and I hope by then SKYPE will be so great that we will not need SIM cards any more to run SKYPE. I advise you go to MTN and ask them to do a “SIM Swap” and also black-list the missing phone. You NEED the IMEI number of your missing phone, and proof that you ARE the owner of that number. Good luck.

LNG are you registered with RICA???Did you get a case number?? who are those ppl that couldnt help you???

the next simcard to enter your telephone might be registered on RICA if not and you it will show exactly who where and when

Hey there.
Cell phone companies can track phones through the imei, or they can read the sim card used. An person I heard about got 80 phones stolen, an d got all the details of the new users, and went round to their houses at night, and got about 50 of them back. I think it’s about making money for the networks – there is another user on the network, you have to buy anew phone, or the insurance companies are keeping making money, with your fees and excess… they don’t mind the crime happening – the money keeps going round..

1984 anyone? And what if you register and they cut you off anyways? It’s not unlikely. It seems to me that modern day people stopped thinking for themselves. We’re all bound by unreasonable, unbendable rules which has no handle on reality. For instance: How hard can it be to pass a driver’s liscense? Hard enough for half the country not to bother with it. Urgh. I think I’ll just steal a sim card when mine get disabled. Thanks Govvie, another thief is born…

@Ray which MTN u went to , cause the ones that I have to they don’t agree with that.

a comment was made…. a criminal will not use ur number….
my home was broken into July 09…..and my phone was stolen …. and they still use my number….
and its revolving between people …

that is scary …..

@Stander….i read your story again and again and again ROTLMAO!!! Thank you for making my day

If we could trust the system there wouldn’t be a problem. I have nothing more to hide than the next person, but how long would it be until cartels start swapping info and next thing you know your identity is stolen. There should be a serious accountability structure present for this not to turn into a data war. We can only imagine the capabilities of abuse concerning this technology.

What happens if my cell is stolen and I am too busy to report it. Later the cell is
left behind at a robbery?
Do I spend a day and night (perhaps two or even three)while the police confirm my alibi?
Furthermore it will not be long now, when we are instructed to bear the mark of the beast on our hand or forehead?

This is a possibility….
Unlike a normal Telkom phone that has an address. The Cell phone is portable, hence a
Licence/Account is difficult to send, when there is no address to deliver it to. BUT! Now that they have your residential Address they will shortly find a reason to send you a Telkom type account for a licence.
The payments you make at present is only for the use of equipment that gives one
connectivity, but now you will find yourself paying for a licence to own a Portable phone.
When they make this a law, you WILL have to pay,
like it or not. GOTCHA!

let guess,all of you people are white!why dont you give OUR government a chance instead of shooting them down each time they try and do something right.At the end of the day it is people with attitudes just like youthat are the ones that fuck around and become corrupt!

HI THERE I JUST WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS LAW OF RICA, IT IS GUD BUT YOU DON’T THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO LIVES IN RURAL PLACES WHO HAVE TO TRAVEL A LONG DISTANCE TO THEIR TOWNS, BUT RATHER THAN THAT IT THINK ALL IT FINE THAT WAS MY COMPLAIN THANK YOU

The real problem is: What if someone steals your celphone and plans a murder? After that any tracing that is undertaken will lead directly to you. What are you going to tell the cops? You might find yourself in Jail for a couple of weeks before they establish the truth.
Pleasant nightmares everyone.

Sim cards that are RICA complient are being sold by a Nigerian.
He is selling prepaid rica sim cards for R10
each. they have been rica’d under a false name and adress.
He is sending out sms’s to people.

No one realised the problem early enough, when Craig started on the 2nd of Jul 2009 and was followed by Cyril in September.
… By the way I’m as white as they come and don’t agree vulgar language makes the point.

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