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	<title>Comments on: 2CheckOut helping South Africans with online payments</title>
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	<description>Cape Town blog by Chris M</description>
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		<title>By: Scotch</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-53494</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used 2CO for a number of years for selling digital products to overseas customers, so prices are in US$. It&#039;s an add-on to a website, not the site&#039;s main purpose, so earnings are small. Amounts due to me go into my Payoneer card.

The main hassle I had initially was that customers could not get instant downloads of their products because of 2CO&#039;s strict fraud screening, ie they first screen the order before emailing you to say it&#039;s now okay to deliver the product. This is fine for physical  products, but not for digital, where the customer expects instant access.

I overcame this by using a product called LinkLok from Vibralogix. This integrates with 2CO and lets you customise the &quot;thank you&quot; and download pages and also means customer doesn&#039;t have to wait for the product. You need a bit of technical savvy to set it up and use all the features, but it works great with 2CO. Also allows an easy way of sending complimentary/free products. Vibralogix also make a similar product for PayPal.

2CO&#039;s fees per transaction are high, but if you want to start small to test the market, it&#039;s better to pay per transaction than have heavy monthly commitments. Generally, I haven&#039;t had any problems with 2CO, they&#039;ve always paid me what&#039;s due and made it possible to sell digital products internationally long before there was any other way of doing so without a merchant account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used 2CO for a number of years for selling digital products to overseas customers, so prices are in US$. It&#8217;s an add-on to a website, not the site&#8217;s main purpose, so earnings are small. Amounts due to me go into my Payoneer card.</p>
<p>The main hassle I had initially was that customers could not get instant downloads of their products because of 2CO&#8217;s strict fraud screening, ie they first screen the order before emailing you to say it&#8217;s now okay to deliver the product. This is fine for physical  products, but not for digital, where the customer expects instant access.</p>
<p>I overcame this by using a product called LinkLok from Vibralogix. This integrates with 2CO and lets you customise the &#8220;thank you&#8221; and download pages and also means customer doesn&#8217;t have to wait for the product. You need a bit of technical savvy to set it up and use all the features, but it works great with 2CO. Also allows an easy way of sending complimentary/free products. Vibralogix also make a similar product for PayPal.</p>
<p>2CO&#8217;s fees per transaction are high, but if you want to start small to test the market, it&#8217;s better to pay per transaction than have heavy monthly commitments. Generally, I haven&#8217;t had any problems with 2CO, they&#8217;ve always paid me what&#8217;s due and made it possible to sell digital products internationally long before there was any other way of doing so without a merchant account.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46509</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep us posted Justin, curious as to how your experience goes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep us posted Justin, curious as to how your experience goes!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46500</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys i just thought i would let you know that we have decided to use 2checkout!! also for those of you who are planning to use 2checkout i found a website that gives you promotion codes which saves you from paying the once off $49 application fee http://www.retailmenot.com/view/2checkout.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys i just thought i would let you know that we have decided to use 2checkout!! also for those of you who are planning to use 2checkout i found a website that gives you promotion codes which saves you from paying the once off $49 application fee <a href="http://www.retailmenot.com/view/2checkout.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.retailmenot.com/view/2checkout.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46480</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for jumping in and sharing your experience Cynthia, appreciate your time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for jumping in and sharing your experience Cynthia, appreciate your time!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46475</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite happy with PayPal, except for the fact that it takes over a week to show in my FNB account..  my experience of 2Checkout, one of my clients wanted to use it to pay me for my writing services.   We opened account with them, he paid the $45 entrance fee, only to find that because i don&#039;t have a website selling a product, only a service, they were not interested and closed the account.  My client got his $45 back after a hassle.  the funny thing I got a payoneers card from them which was useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite happy with PayPal, except for the fact that it takes over a week to show in my FNB account..  my experience of 2Checkout, one of my clients wanted to use it to pay me for my writing services.   We opened account with them, he paid the $45 entrance fee, only to find that because i don&#8217;t have a website selling a product, only a service, they were not interested and closed the account.  My client got his $45 back after a hassle.  the funny thing I got a payoneers card from them which was useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46471</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin - I agree, overseas it&#039;s a piece of cake getting setup online to transact, but there just seem to be hurdles and hurdles locally. It&#039;s sad because we have so many excellent entrepreneurs in South Africa and this is the perfect way of bringing more income into our country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin &#8211; I agree, overseas it&#8217;s a piece of cake getting setup online to transact, but there just seem to be hurdles and hurdles locally. It&#8217;s sad because we have so many excellent entrepreneurs in South Africa and this is the perfect way of bringing more income into our country!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46469</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting guys thanks for your opinions. I really wish getting this stuff was easier lol. Let me chat to the boss and see what he would like to do and if you guys like i will let you know what we decide is the best option. thanks again hey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting guys thanks for your opinions. I really wish getting this stuff was easier lol. Let me chat to the boss and see what he would like to do and if you guys like i will let you know what we decide is the best option. thanks again hey</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46457</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each payment gateway has a negative to it, that I completely understand, it&#039;s almost like anything in life where there are multiple options - pro&#039;s and con&#039;s scenario.

I know a number of locals, South Africans, that use 2CheckOut without any problems and they&#039;re more than happy with the way the service runs.

PayFast is an option, but I see it being no different to the others, except that I think PayFast doesn&#039;t require you to have a merchant account, therefore you aren&#039;t tied to the bank, so if something does go wrong, it might actually be hard to track down.

Just my opinion based on what others have told me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each payment gateway has a negative to it, that I completely understand, it&#8217;s almost like anything in life where there are multiple options &#8211; pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s scenario.</p>
<p>I know a number of locals, South Africans, that use 2CheckOut without any problems and they&#8217;re more than happy with the way the service runs.</p>
<p>PayFast is an option, but I see it being no different to the others, except that I think PayFast doesn&#8217;t require you to have a merchant account, therefore you aren&#8217;t tied to the bank, so if something does go wrong, it might actually be hard to track down.</p>
<p>Just my opinion based on what others have told me.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Catto</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46454</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Catto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin: I wouldn&#039;t use them because of their business model. They act as &quot;resellers&quot; of your product or service, instead of acting as a neutral payment gateway, they involve themselves intimately in the transaction, so that when someone buys your product, they&#039;re actually buying it from 2checkout, not you.

It just doesn&#039;t make sense to me. And the result of this way of doing business is that they are incredibly fussy about who they will deal with. They have a whole long list of excluded businesses.

If you trade in intangibles, it becomes complex. I had a problem recently with PayPal where I used them to pay for web hosting (which PayPal defines as an intangible service) and they exclude it from their payment protection system. So when the hoster shafted me, PayPal refused to refund me.

I reckon the best thing, if you&#039;ve got the volume, is to become a merchant with a bank and just process credit cards directly yourself. All these third party services find ways to stiff you. 2checkout, for instance, doesn&#039;t even pay the full amount over immediately (like a bank would). They take about 21 days to pay, and they retain x percentage to cover chargebacks.

I&#039;d rather look at using payfast.co.za, at least they are local and are governed by South African law. If they stiff you, you can open a criminal charge or sue them much more easily than you can a company that is based outside of South Africa.

When PayPal or 2checkout or AlertPay or Western Union stiff you, there&#039;s not a heck of a lot you can do about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin: I wouldn&#8217;t use them because of their business model. They act as &#8220;resellers&#8221; of your product or service, instead of acting as a neutral payment gateway, they involve themselves intimately in the transaction, so that when someone buys your product, they&#8217;re actually buying it from 2checkout, not you.</p>
<p>It just doesn&#8217;t make sense to me. And the result of this way of doing business is that they are incredibly fussy about who they will deal with. They have a whole long list of excluded businesses.</p>
<p>If you trade in intangibles, it becomes complex. I had a problem recently with PayPal where I used them to pay for web hosting (which PayPal defines as an intangible service) and they exclude it from their payment protection system. So when the hoster shafted me, PayPal refused to refund me.</p>
<p>I reckon the best thing, if you&#8217;ve got the volume, is to become a merchant with a bank and just process credit cards directly yourself. All these third party services find ways to stiff you. 2checkout, for instance, doesn&#8217;t even pay the full amount over immediately (like a bank would). They take about 21 days to pay, and they retain x percentage to cover chargebacks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather look at using payfast.co.za, at least they are local and are governed by South African law. If they stiff you, you can open a criminal charge or sue them much more easily than you can a company that is based outside of South Africa.</p>
<p>When PayPal or 2checkout or AlertPay or Western Union stiff you, there&#8217;s not a heck of a lot you can do about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.imod.co.za/2009/08/03/2checkout-helping-south-africans-with-online-payments/#comment-46453</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, was just wondering what your experiences were with 2Checkout? I&#039;m Considering opening an account with them for the company i work for but want to find out whether it is worth it. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, was just wondering what your experiences were with 2Checkout? I&#8217;m Considering opening an account with them for the company i work for but want to find out whether it is worth it. Thanks</p>
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