Nokia Ovi Store – Customer Support Complaint (Another Update)

This is a guest post by @Haydndup. It is a lengthy complaint about my recent bad experience with the Nokia Ovi Store.

I purchased a game from the Nokia Ovi Store on the 16th of October 2009 from my Nokia N97 – the Ovi Store Client failed to actually download the application, giving the very unhelpful error message, “Download failed”. It did, however, manage to successfully charge my credit card.

I filled out a support request form on the Ovi website giving them all the details they would need (as I have had applications resent to me in the past, I knew the drill). Below is the message that was sent to the support team (with personal details removed by me):

From: xxx
Sent: 17/10/2009 03:59:32 AM
To: store.support@nokia.com
Subject: Other – Store

Language:Others
Country:SOUTH AFRICA
First name:xxx
Last name:xxx
Email address:xxx
Mobile:++27xxxxxxxxx
Phone model:Nokia N97
Contact topic:Other – Store
Message:Hi there,

I just purchased Sky Force Reloaded from Ovi Store (username: Haydndup) for my N97, however, when I try to download the application, it says download failed (I have even tried switching from WiFi to 3G).

My order number is XXXXXXXXXXXX
IMEI: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Would it be possible to resend the application, as I don’t want to have to buy the game again?

Regards.

After a few hours, I get this reply:

From: store.support@ovi.com [mailto:store.support@ovi.com]
Sent: 17 October 2009 07:16 AM
To: xxx
Subject: RE:Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Dear xxx,

Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.

With regards to your enquiry,kindly be informed that to Emile us back with the following information :

Which phone model(s) is/are in use?
) What is IMEI / Electronic Serial Number / Serial Number?
What is the name of the operator?
Can consumer successfully connect to the Internet e.g. browse the web?
How is the device connected to the Internet (e.g. 3G, GPRS, WLAN)?
How was the content downloaded (e.g. over the air, over the internet, pre-installed) In which country the service is used?
What is the customer’s full name?
What is the licence type of the downloaded/purchased item? (e.g. free, trial, full licence) What is the order code / license code?
What is the software version of the application or service?
What is the software version of the phone?
What is the title of the Game/content type?
What is the transaction ID of the downloaded/purchased content? (e.g. game, song, application) What is the used language of application or service?
What is the username of the consumer?
What was the date of purchase (dd.mm.yyyy)?
What was the error message, if any?

Please help us serve you better by providing your valuable feedback at:

http://digiumenterprise.com/answer/?inv=xxxxxx&chk=xxxxx&anslang=0

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the Nokia Careline on 08611-66-542, between 9am and 6pm (local time), Monday – Saturday. For online assistance, please visit http://www.nokia.com/mea/contactus.

“Keep your phone software up-to-date by using the Nokia Software Updater. For more details visit Nokia Support and software at http://mea.nokia.com/support#. You can also go online to find user guides, troubleshooting support and other services to help you use your Nokia product”

Kind regards,

xxx xxx
Nokia Careline
Nokia Middle East & Africa

Notice how they didn’t actually bother to read my original message? All of their questions (except for the ones about software versions, which I’ve never needed to provide in the past) were already answered in my message. But instead of a meaningful reply, I got a useless email. So, I replied:

From: xxx
Sent: 17/10/2009 04:34:03 PM
To: <store.support@ovi.com>
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Hi,

I don’t mean to be difficult, but did anyone actually read my message? All of the questions you asked below I had already answered in my initial request. I have had to request items to be resent before, so I know how it works. I was expecting someone to be able to help me immediately, but instead I got a standard canned-response.

I’m not very impressed.

Regards.

It must’ve been my lucky day – I got another useless reply. This time, the reply was from a different support representative. It might be relevant to point out that all of the responses were from different support representatives.

From: store.support@ovi.com [mailto:store.support@ovi.com]
Sent: 18 October 2009 08:53 AM
To: xxx
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Dear xxx,

Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.

Regarding your query to reinstall the purchased application, we recommend you to follow the steps below:

1- Log on to ovi store:
www.store.ovi.com
2- Click on ‘my stuff’.
3- Select the application.
4- Click on ‘send to friend’.
5- On the page that opens , select ‘send to mobile’ and enter your mobile number.
6- It will be send a link to your mobile phone number.
7- You can download it again from the link received.

If the above did not solve the issue and you did not receive the application again, we recommend you to provide us with more information about the required purchased application so we can resend it to your mobile number.

Please help us serve you better by providing your valuable feedback at:

http://digiumenterprise.com/answer/?inv=xxx&chk=xxx&anslang=0

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the Nokia Careline on 08611-66-542, between 9am and 6pm (local time), Monday – Saturday. For online assistance, please visit http://www.nokia.com/mea/contactus.

“Keep your phone software up-to-date by using the Nokia Software Updater. For more details visit Nokia Support and software at http://mea.nokia.com/support#. You can also go online to find user guides, troubleshooting support and other services to help you use your Nokia product”

Kind regards,

xxx xxx
Nokia Careline
Nokia Middle East & Africa

See what he did there? He didn’t read my initial message either! If he did, he would know that applications that have been purchsed cannot be redownloaded via the Ovi Store. I replied again, this time I was a little more irate.

From: xxx
Sent: 18/10/2009 03:29:45 PM
To: <store.support@ovi.com>
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Hi,

The download does not show up under my download history as the original download failed.

I have to admit, I’m very disappointed with Ovi Store. I’ve been a long-time Nokia fan, but having to wait 3 days to get an application I purchased is ridiculous!

Also, do people even read my email? I brought up a few points in my previous email, and yet no one has responded to those points. And once again, I get a standard canned-response.

Why do you need more information to resend that application? I have provided ALL the details you needed in my original email. But instead of getting fast and efficient service, I get messed around.

I would like the application to be resent as soon as possible. All details that you require are in my original email.

Regards.

After that email, I got a phone call from a support representative. He guaranteed me that my request had been escalated and would be dealt with as soon as possible. I vaguely recall that he said I would receive an SMS with the download link “in the next few hours”. He then emailed me shortly after the phone call:

From: store.support@ovi.com [mailto:store.support@ovi.com]
Sent: 18 October 2009 10:57 AM
To: xxx
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline General Enquiry

Dear xxx,

Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.

As per our telephonic conversation, We would like to bring to your attention that your case was escalated to the relevant department for a closer look in order to send you the download link again of the “Sky Force Reloaded application” and this is your reference number 1-XXXXXXXXX. Moreover, we assure you that our team who is dealing with your case are aware of all the points and the contents of your case, Please be assured that it is our intention to keep these delays to a minimum. As Promised, you will be contacted as soon as we have any updates on your case.

Please help us serve you better by providing your valuable feedback at:

http://digiumenterprise.com/answer/?inv=xxx&chk=xxx&anslang=0

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the Nokia Careline on 08611-66-542, between 9am and 6pm (local time), Monday – Saturday. For online assistance, please visit http://www.nokia.com/mea/contactus.

“Keep your phone software up-to-date by using the Nokia Software Updater. For more details visit Nokia Support and software at http://mea.nokia.com/support#. You can also go online to find user guides, troubleshooting support and other services to help you use your Nokia product”

Kind regards,

xxx xxx
Nokia Careline
Nokia Middle East & Africa

Great! Things seemed to be moving forward.

I was wrong – no one contacted me. I even tried phoning the Nokia Careline and giving them the reference number. I was told to email support. So, I emailed support. Again.

From: xxx
Sent: 19/10/2009 07:58:31 PM
To: <store.support@ovi.com>
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Hi,

It’s now been over a day and I have yet to hear from anyone regarding my problem.

In future, I think I’ll just pay twice for a failed application – it’s far more effective, and much less painful.

Regards.

Short and to the point. 6 days later, they replied.

From: store.support@ovi.com [mailto:store.support@ovi.com]
Sent: 25 October 2009 09:12 AM
To: xxx
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Dear xxx,

Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.

With regard to your enquiry, kindly be informed that your case is still under progress; moreover, we assure you that our team who deal with your case are going to inform us about any news regarding your subject, meanwhile we will update you as soon as we get further news.

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the Nokia Careline on 08611-66-542, between 9am and 6pm (local time), Monday – Saturday. For online assistance, please visit http://www.nokia.com/mea/contactus.

“Keep your phone software up-to-date by using the Nokia Software Updater. For more details visit Nokia Support and software at http://mea.nokia.com/support#. You can also go online to find user guides, troubleshooting support and other services to help you use your Nokia product”

Kind regards,

xxx
Nokia Careline
Nokia Middle East & Africa

Look! Another canned response! After 6 days, the best they could give me was that my case was “still under progress”. I replied, now very frustrated:

From: xxx
Sent: 25/10/2009 06:23:43 PM
To: <store.support@ovi.com>
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Hi,

I really think this is getting ridiculous now. I’ve had applications resent to me in the past and it’s taken at most 2 days for the issue to be resolved. So far, we’re on day number 8.

Regards.

Later that day, I get another meaningless reply (anyone notice a pattern here?):

From: store.support@ovi.com [mailto:store.support@ovi.com]
Sent: 25 October 2009 12:38 PM
To: xxx
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Dear xxx,

Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.

With regards to your enquiry we regret to hear that one of our valuable customers does experience this issue. On the other hand kindly be informed that your case in under process, we did not receive any feedback from the relevant department even we pushing them hardly. We do apologize for the inconvenience that happened and to accept our apology is more than a pleasure.

Furthermore, kindly note that a new reminder has been sent to them and at the moment we will receive any feedback you will be contacted.

Also, kindly be informed that the reference number for your case in our system is 1-XXXXXXXXX.

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the Nokia Careline on 08611-66-542, between 9am and 6pm (local time), Monday – Saturday. For online assistance, please visit http://www.nokia.com/mea/contactus.

“Keep your phone software up-to-date by using the Nokia Software Updater. For more details visit Nokia Support and software at http://mea.nokia.com/support#. You can also go online to find user guides, troubleshooting support and other services to help you use your Nokia product”

Kind regards,

xxx xxx
Nokia Careline
Nokia Middle East & Africa

I decided to give them some time – maybe they’d surprise me and actually resend the application. After 3 days, I still had not heard from them. I replied, this time my frustration was even more evident:

From: xxx
Sent: 28 October 2009 03:36 PM
To: store.support@ovi.com
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – Haydn Du Plessis -General Enquiry

Hi,

11 days and still nothing? I’d like someone from management to give me a call tomorrow. I’ve tried calling the help centre to no avail.

” On the other hand kindly be informed that your case in under process ” – I can almost guarantee you that nothing has done anything about my case since I last emailed.

It’s obvious that you guys don’t care about your customers – 11 days to resolve a simple issue like this?

Ovi has so much potential, but it will fail and become insignificant if this is the way you treat your customers.

Oh, and I am serious about wanting a phone call tomorrow. From someone who will be able to resolve this issue over the phone. I’m tired of waiting.

Regards.

After an email like that, you’d think someone would at least call or email, right? Nope – 5 days later and I’ve yet to hear from them.

On a side note, I think it’s great that companies are getting involed in social media – Nokia has accounts for many of its services. But what’s the point in having these accounts if you couldn’t be bothered to engage with your customers? I tried sending @OviStore a request for help, but they never replied. I’ve complained multiple times. I also tried giving them an ultimatum. They never responded to my ultimatum, so that’s how this post was born.

Update: 2nd November 2009 – 22h00
After posting this, I decided to email it to Ovi Support, and tweet it a few times. The inevitable retweets followed. Below is the email I sent (at this point, I was kind of enjoying the whole saga):

From:  haydndup@gmail.com
Sent:  03/11/2009 03:23:22 AM
To:  <store.support@ovi.com>
Subject:  RE: Nokia Careline – Haydn Du Plessis – General Enquiry

Hi,

Remember me? I’m the guy who’s been waiting for over 18 days to have a simple issue resolved.

Polite emails don’t work. Irate emails don’t work. Phone calls don’t even work.

I have now elevated the problem myself – for the whole world to see.

http://imod.co.za/2009/11/02/nokia-ovi-store-customer-support-complaint/

Enjoy

Update: 3rd November 2009 – 09h00
I just received the SMS with the download link.
See Ovi Store? It’s really not that hard to log in to your little control panel, click Send Application and type in my phone number. It’s not higher grade stuff. I also got this email:

From: store.support@ovi.com [mailto:store.support@ovi.com]
Sent: 03 November 2009 08:51 AM
To: xxx
Subject: RE: Nokia Careline – General Enquiry

Dear xxx,

With regard to your enquiry about the Ovi Store Application “Sky Force Reloaded”, please note that we have sent the application to your phone and you should be able to receive it as an SMS. Please activate the application and download it in your phone within 2 hours from receiving the SMS.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused by our previous emails and any disappointment caused to you.

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the Nokia Careline on 08611-66-542, between 9am and 6pm (local time), Monday – Saturday. For online assistance, please visit http://www.nokia.com/mea/contactus.

“Keep your phone software up-to-date by using the Nokia Software Updater. For more details visit Nokia Support and software at http://mea.nokia.com/support#. You can also go online to find user guides, troubleshooting support and other services to help you use your Nokia product”

Kind regards,
xxx xxx
Nokia Careline
Nokia Middle East & Africa

Kick up a bit of dust and the issue is resolved within 12 hours. Great!

I would love it if someone from Nokia/Ovi could give me an official response (in the comments). Quite frankly, I don’t buy these half-assed apologies anymore. I want to know why it took nearly 3 weeks to resolve my query. The irony is that it would have been quicker for me to code the game myself than wait for Ovi Store to resend it.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy that I finally got the application, but I don’t see why I had to wait 3 weeks and then post it for the world to see before anything was done about it. That’s not Customer Service, that’s oh-s**t-now-the-world-can-see-how-much-we-suck.


Update: 9th November 2009 – 09h00

I was contacted on Friday the 11th by the Senior Care Manager of Nokia SA (via email) – she had asked for all the email reference numbers (which I had removed from this post). I happily sent her all the relevant details. I’ve yet to receive a response.

That was just a quick little update – the real reason I decided to update this post was because of the email I just received (2009/11/09 08:17AM):

Dear xxx,

Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.

With regard to your enquiry, we regret and afraid to add to your frustration that there is no feedback for the solution yet, we hope a solution will be communicated to us soon and we will call and provide it accordingly.

Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact the Nokia Careline on 08611-66-542, between 9am and 6pm (local time), Monday – Saturday. For online assistance, please visit http://www.nokia.com/mea/contactus

“Keep your phone software up-to-date by using the Nokia Software Updater. For more details visit Nokia Support and software at http://mea.nokia.com/support#. You can also go online to find user guides, troubleshooting support and other services to help you use your Nokia product”

Kind regards,
xxx xxx
Nokia Careline
Nokia Middle East & Africa

The funny thing is, the issue has been resolved. The solution was found. That email was sent as a reply to the one I sent them on the 28th of October. Seriously, I’m confused.

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32 Comments on "Nokia Ovi Store – Customer Support Complaint (Another Update)"

  1. Anon says:

    Try Bill Perry bperry on Twitter. or name.surname at nokia.com

  2. tony says:

    I had the exact same problem. As far as I am concerned nokia can shove it and keep my cash. I have tried to get a refund. I was contacted and asked to fill out a form but nothing came of it. I would rather they keep the money. Maybe it will help them against their struggle with Apple. Bunch of tits. Oh, and my GPS STILL does not work. almost 6 months now of no GPS in a flagship model is flipping dumb. I got the phone for free so it might seem snobbish to complain, but you dont buy a car with 3 of the 4 wheels do you….. :/

  3. tony says:

    and yes, I had the same mail sent back to me. 90% of the info they wanted from me in the 2nd mail I had already sent it to them.

    At the end of the day Nokia just makes me feel like I have been conned. When I get bored of this FW2.0 I think I am going back to windows mobile. Never had a problem with them once, and compared to the countless errors I have with Nokia it is just sickening. Does anyone want my Ovi Maps codes, because they are USELESS without a phone that has a working GPS. And NO, this does not fix the Gps, it just makes your phone look an extra 9months older……

    http://symbian-freak.com/downloads/freeware/cat_s60_5th/00_index_5th_ed.htm

  4. Chris M says:

    Wonder if we’re going to see a trend here..

  5. gzzz says:

    http://nokiaexperts.com/ovi-store-redownloads-supported/

    re-install is finally supported. I never purchased anything from the ovi store, just because of this issue you encountered. Now that they allow re-installing paid apps, maybe i’ll buy a couple. But this whole design of ovi store is horrible.

  6. Louis says:

    Call your credit card company and reverse the transaction.

  7. Louis says:

    Wanted to say you were way too patient.

  8. Haydndup says:

    Thanks for the replies all – the issue has been resolved and I’ve updated the original post..

    @gzzz – That didn’t work for my – my Ovi Store account had no record of my purchase (yet I was charged, and I got the transaction receipt from Ovi Store).

    @Louis – I’m not generally very patient, but I decided to see how much they’d draw it out.

  9. Chris M says:

    So thrilled to hear that the matter has been resolved, hopefully it’s the blog post which pushed them to helping!

  10. tony says:

    Its actually so uncanny how I have had the exact same problems as you have had, and they still do nothing. I only purchased a theme to test out the OVI store with regards to buying stuff. It failed twice, I was the sucker and now I have 2 payments of R16.10 and no bloody theme. One day when Nokia buy something from me I’ll make sure to factor that cost back into it.

  11. Chris M says:

    Ye Tony, it’s incredibly annoying and I’m surprised they didn’t contact you via these comments! Perhaps Haydndup could help..

  12. TMS233 says:

    Hi

    Our Head of Customer Care has been alerted about th issues raised here and will be in contact with Haydndup ASAP if not already

    Regards
    Team Nokia SA

  13. Chris M says:

    Hi Tania, from what I’ve heard, Haydndup has already had everything resolved :)))

  14. TMS233 says:

    Hi Chris

    Yeah I know he has but we will still contact him to assure him that we will be taking this up with our CareLine to ensure that corrective measure are taken when dealing with our customers.

    Regards
    Tania

  15. Chris M says:

    I’m no surprised, I wouldn’t expect anything else from Nokia :)

  16. Haydndup says:

    @TMS233, thanks I was contacted.

    I have updated the post.

  17. Lyn says:

    I have also just had an extremely bad experience with the OVI store and a careline contsultant. I must say the customer service is just shocking.. I don’t think I will ever even use a Nokia phone again in my life nevermind the music store. It’s very sad when an organisation gets so big and customer care means so little to them when they got to be that size because of the customer in the first place.

  18. for some unkown reason i can not gain access to the music store to download music. the following message keeps on comming up “user name or paseord not recognised ” please help . selphone number +27798745457

  19. NMS_ZA says:

    Hi Johannes

    it could be that you have not selected South Africa from the store selection – it does sometimes default to the global site, which will not recognise your user name and password – check the bottom of the page when you access the page form the Ovi Music Player.

    Hope this solves your problem!
    Regards
    NMS_ZA

  20. Chris M says:

    Thanks for clearing this up Tania, seems like this thread might actually come in incredibly handy, amazing how these things turn out! :)

  21. i am trying to access the nokia ovi player from my pc but keep on getting the following message “nokia ovi has stopped working. please help

  22. Gerhard says:

    Glad I saw this site and others regarding Ovi Store. I was about to buy a Nokia phone, but will rather go for a Blackberry.

    Johannes try re-installing, but by now you probably did.

    Ovi store made me change to another brand phone, just like Microsoft motivated the change at home to Linux.

  23. Chris M says:

    @Gerhard – I definitely wouldn’t go for a Nerry over a Nokia mate, that’s a crazy change!

  24. Jim Hopping says:

    Nokia Ovi Player is by far the worst piece of software ever. Doubles up tracks with seemingly no way of deleting them without going throug every album and deleting the copies. I love my new phone but Ovi is utter utter utter utter utter utter doggy do do.

  25. NMS_ZA says:

    Hi Jim

    Apology for the late response – was OoO

    I have feedback from our Music Store Manager with a fix for the issue you have with the duplicate tracks – it is a detailed response with step-by-step details – if you can drop us an email then I’ll forward the settings fix to you to rectify your issue with the tracks.

    Regards
    NMS_ZA Team
    Nokia.MusicStore-ZA@nokia.com

  26. lerato says:

    i have being trying to activate and contact custmer about my quiry but i can’t get help. My problem about you registration to activate the voucher came with the phone is. SPEP BY SPET.1.Click to ovi music ulimited – no: To settings up your unlimuted down load subscription and ask me a question do u have a user name and i chose no. Enter a pin code was sent to u via sms when you first turned your mobile on Itry vouchr pin code but not accepeted need than pin come with the phone.AND I DONT HAVE THAT PIN CODE PLS HELP ME TO REGISTER, BECAUSE IF I DONT REGISTER IN A PIROD OF 3O DAYS I CAN LOOSE THIS VOUCHER. My emi number is 358276036211336 model of phone is nokia 513O XpressMusic.Voucher number is NW4QGQR9MHQHHKV6. Please i can be happy if you can help to actvivate this card for me. my cell number is 0718869707 – 0799422773 and 0835028837.Please help me.

  27. ZuL says:

    i had problem with my nokia account in my device..when try to open “needed resources in use.try later” will appear on my screen.what should i do???

  28. Cletta says:

    Hi
    On the 11th of February 2011, I have purchased a game from Ovi store for R25.00 via my phone. The download was complete but when I looked for the game om my installation it was not there. The name of the game is Tetrix Mania. My transaction ID is JHH950ECYEMX. My handset is Nokia E63.
    Thank you

  29. NokiaRSA says:

    @Cletta – Thank you for your note, just a quick question – Did you check your Applications Folder? All downloads normally appear there.

    We will pass the information onto our Customer Care guys, but as we don’t have any contact details for you, it might be a little difficult to resolve. You can call our Customer Care Line at 0861166542 and they will assist you to retrieve the game. Have you checked your MyStuff folder in Ovi Store? All Downloaded / Purchased content appears there too and you could redownload from there if it isn’t in your Applications folder already.

  30. Cletta says:

    Yes I did check my applications folder and the game does appear. At MyStuff folder I checked and launched the game, a message comes up that says ” The operation could not be completed due to an error” and I’ve checked serveral times. To phone customer care not possible because of not enough airtime or money to make a call. Is there no other way of helping me?
    Thanks

    082 5633 187

  31. NokiaRSA says:

    @Cletta – thank you for sharing your contact details – we have passed it onto our Customer Care Manager and she will be in touch tomorrow to try and assist you resolve this issue

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